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Comment on Iran: No News Is Bad News On Mother Language Day by Butch

Butch — Sat, 08 Oct 2011 05:56:15 +0000

A few years ago I’d have to pay someone for this infraomtion.

Comment on Azeri Turkish, My Mother’s Language by Tracen

Tracen — Sat, 08 Oct 2011 00:59:44 +0000

You Sir/Madam are the enemy of confusion eervywhree!

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Comment on A Turkish Role Model For Iran by An Indonesian Reader

An Indonesian Reader — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:35:29 +0000

Indonesia’s situation is quiet similar to Turkey, though only one province which imposes Sharia Law along with Civil Law. However, here is getting westernized even looks more western than the westerners themselves. This is what makes me sad.

Iranian tourists are rare here. I only find some Turkish which can be easily recognized by their hijab styles..hehehee and Turkish styles are increasingly popular too here. I agree, Muslims also need freedom, eventhough not absolute one.

Salam

Comment on Azeri Turkish, My Mother’s Language by An Indonesian Reader

An Indonesian Reader — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 01:19:23 +0000

Salam from here,

This article is so interesting for me, at least it will open my mind about linguistic situations in Iran. I’ve been interested in Azeri language (but I don’t learn it seriously, just as widening my insight) especially in Iran, and sometimes compare it with its counterparts in Azerbaijan Republic. It’s so complicated I think compared with my own country (maybe similar, but in different version)
I am from Indonesia where there are about 750 vernacular languages are spoken (almost 50% Indonesians are ethnically Javanese and most of them also speak Javanese even at office). Eventhough there’s no any ban for them spoken widely, but the unity language (bahasa Indonesia which is derived from High Malay) has been increasingly predominant and those 750 vernacular languages here are declining. Mother language day is also celebrated here, but most Indonesians aren’t so interested about it. Just slogan.
Reviving vernacular languages are provincial policies, and not centralized here. But it doesn’t mean seperation as many think about. Just for enriching and colouring Indonesia itself as our slogan “Bhinneka Tunggal Ika” or “Unity in Diversity”.
Anywhere, pressure will flourish resistance, and I hope Iranian minorities will be better in the future (at least their linguistic rights are respected).

Lastly, I apologize if I compare it with what happened in my country..just for sharing and Thanks God for finding this site.

Salam

An Indonesian reader

Comment on Azeri Turkish, My Mother’s Language by FictionalArticle

FictionalArticle — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:09:10 +0000

Professor R. N. Frye of Harvard, in the section called “PEOPLES OF IRAN” in Encyclopædia Iranica, says: “The long and complex history of Azari, a major Iranian language and the original language of the region, and its partial replacement with Azeri Turkish, the present-day language of Azerbaijan, is surveyed in detail and with a wealth of citations from historical sources elsewhere in the Encyclopaedia (see AZERBAIJAN vii). Although the original Azari gradually lost its stature as the prevalent language by the end of the 14th century, the fact that the region had produced some of the finest Persian writers and poets of classical Persian, including Qaṭrān of Tabriz.”

(Anyone that thinks the present Turkic-Azeri was their mother language is a fool, under-educated, or wishes bad things for the people of Iran.)

And what can you claim now? That the most celebrated Harvard Professor on Iranian studies is a ‘Persian Racist’? Learn to speak Persian.

Comment on Azeri Turkish, My Mother’s Language by FictionalArticle

FictionalArticle — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:04:44 +0000

Professor Igrar Aliyev states that:
“In the writing of medieval Arab historians (Ibn Hawqal, Muqqaddesi..), the people of Azarbaijan spoke Azari. This Azari was without doubt an Iranian language because it is also contrasted with Dari but it is also mentioned as Persian. It was not the same as the languages of the Caucasus mentioned by Arab historians. Azari is not exactly Dari (name used for the Khorasanian Persian which is the Modern Persian language). From the research conducted by researchers upon this language, this language is part of the North Western Iranian languages and was close to Talyshi language. Talyshi language has kept some of the characteristics of the Median language.”

There are hundreds of ancient books on the fact that the original language of the people of Azerbaijan was Persian-Azari, which later became “Turkified.” If an Azari wants to learn his or her “mother tongue” they should study Middle Persian (Pahlavi).

Comment on Azeri Turkish, My Mother’s Language by FictionalArticle

FictionalArticle — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:45:18 +0000

For several thousand years, the original language of people living in Azerbaijan was Middle Persian (a dialect known as “Pahlavi”). As a result of recent “turkification” many Azerbaijanis lost the ability to speak Persian-Azari and replaced it with the Turkic dialect. The article claims that, “Iran’s ethnic Azeris can hardly write and read in Azeri Turkish because there is no education in their own, mother language. ” Your mother language was Persian. Even the official Azerbaijan Government Site says: “4th-3rd century BC – Darius III’s (Persian King of Kings) General Atropat is made King of Media Minor. Thus, the land is named after him as ‘Atoorpatkan’.” What Pan-Turkists can’t seem to answer is why their ‘Turkic’ land is named after a Persian General who served a Persian King and was an adherent of the Persian religion of Zoroastriansm? They also are not able to explain why Ba-Ku, the capital of Azerbaijan, is a conjunction of the Persian words “Baad” (wind) and “Kubideh” (to pound) (BaKu = wind pounded city and was called Baad-Kubideh in texts several thousand years old). Pan-Turkists also can’t explain why all the important ancient artifacts in Azerbaijan, including stone carvings, are in Persian-Azari (Pahlavi). Turkic as your “mother tongue”? Give me a break. “Turk” is a Chinese word and the origin of the real Turks is the Altai Mountains in China/Mongolia.

Comment on Iranian Small Business Squeezed By Ahmadinejad’s Policies by Abbas Djavadi

Abbas Djavadi — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:26:50 +0000

Thank you for this useful comment. I take the liberty to post it on http://khaterat.net since I believe it is a kind of memoirs…